so i don't think that we're underregulated in the united states. i think we're overregular lated, and this overregulation -- [applause] transforms what would be entrepreneurial capitalist institutions into extensions of government. and you get corzine as sort of the epitome of the corrupt, incestuous capitalists who, unfortunately, has come to present wall street. i'm for venture capitalists and private equity people. i think what mitt romney did was superb, and michael jensen, incidentally, has studied the effects of private equity during the 1980s and early '90s and finds them overwhelmingly positive. this was a time when u.s. was creating 40 million jobs. and this was a time when wall street managed some 43,000 m&a transactions. it wasn't bad for the economy then. it's bad when it's all embroiled in government shuffles and -- >> 30 seconds. >> -- and housing finance. >> do i have time for another question. >> if you can do it in a couple seconds and let him answer. >> so the prosecution has not proposed putting wall street behind bars. what we'r